MAS-WP-0003-T04: Google Groups results (lower-cases members); T04 done
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@ -172,7 +172,30 @@ real failure in the run.
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nothing in the statute gives `ticket--…` resource meaning. See SCP-6
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(declared alternate separator) and SCP-7 (identifier case).
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**Still untested (T04):** a mailing list (VERP).
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**Mailing list (T04, Google Groups, 2026-10-18):**
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- **The member form accepted `=` and capitals:**
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`ticket=GS-85QJ8WC09P+comments@` was accepted. The invitation was
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delivered to it byte-identical (Auto-Submitted: auto-generated) and was
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correlated to the ticket.
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- **After acceptance, Google stored the member in lower case.** The list
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post arrived for `ticket=gs-85qj8wc09p+comments@`. The envelope sender
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was the per-message bounce address
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`coulomb-social+bncBDG…@googlegroups.com`, which tags the list's own
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local-part and does not touch ours, so there is no collision with `=`
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or `+`.
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- **With exact comparison the post did not match the ticket.** The service
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quarantined it as an unknown resource and did not reply
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(`Precedence: list`). That is correct under v0.1, but the post was lost
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to the ticket.
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**T04 conclusion:**
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- SRS and list bounce addresses never collide with MAS syntax, because they
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rewrite or tag the *sender*.
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- Facets survived every path.
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- The real risks are **provider forms**: IONOS refuses `=`, and **two of
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two** forwarding/list providers (IONOS, Google Groups) lower-case the
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recipient. Case-sensitive resource identifiers do not survive
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forwarding or lists, which makes SCP-7 the most consequential proposal.
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### Resource addressing: did it improve correlation?
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Yes. The service replies *from* `ticket=GS-…@great-service.example`, so an
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@ -100,7 +100,9 @@ to MAS addresses carrying an `@domain`. Pending: SRS and VERP (MAS-WP-0003
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T04).
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**Counter-evidence (T04):** the IONOS forwarding form refused `=` and
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forced lower case (SCP-6, SCP-7). Mail *clients* preserved MAS syntax;
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forced lower case. Google Groups accepted `=` but lower-cased the member
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address (SCP-6, SCP-7). SRS and list bounce addresses never collided with
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`=` or `+`. Mail *clients* preserved MAS syntax;
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provider *configuration forms* did not.
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**Proposal:** keep the normative text. Add an informative note recording
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**Sections:** §6.2 Resource identifiers, §8 Address equivalence, §13.
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**Evidence:** the IONOS forwarding form forces destination addresses to
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lower case: `GS-85QJ8WC09P` became `gs-85qj8wc09p`. With the spec default
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lower case: `GS-85QJ8WC09P` became `gs-85qj8wc09p`. Google Groups did the
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same after a member accepted the invitation: the invitation was delivered
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mixed-case, but list mail went to the lower-cased address and was
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quarantined as an unknown resource. With the spec default
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(exact comparison) and a statute declaring `case: exact`, the identifier
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no longer matches. Many systems treat local-parts as case-insensitive in
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practice, despite RFC 5321.
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**Priority:** highest of this set. Two of two forwarding/list providers
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lower-cased the recipient.
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**Proposal:**
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- §6.2: "Generators SHOULD use resource identifiers whose meaning does not
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depend on letter case (for example lower-case only, or a case-insensitive
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@ -167,7 +167,7 @@ address and what envelope recipient arrives.
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```task
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id: MAS-WP-0003-T04
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status: progress
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status: done
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priority: medium
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state_hub_task_id: "97c88b4f-14c3-5f6c-8f31-6b9fc3afd236"
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```
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@ -188,7 +188,17 @@ or are stripped.
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separator; the operator endorses the mapping) and SCP-7 (case-robust
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identifiers).
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Gmail forwarding: skipped (optional; would only add a second forwarder
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that accepts `=`). Still open: one mailing list (VERP).
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that accepts `=`).
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- 2026-10-18, Google Groups (`coulomb-social@googlegroups.com`): the member
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form accepted `ticket=GS-85QJ8WC09P+comments@` unchanged. The invitation
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(11:58:20Z) arrived byte-identical and was correlated; no auto-reply was
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sent (Auto-Submitted). After acceptance, the list post (12:05:37Z)
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arrived for the **lower-cased** `ticket=gs-85qj8wc09p+comments@`. Its
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envelope sender was `coulomb-social+bnc…@googlegroups.com`, which does
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not collide with our syntax, and the facet survived. Exact comparison
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missed the ticket, so the post was quarantined with no reply
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(Precedence: list). Correct per v0.1, but lost to the ticket. This is
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the second provider to lower-case, so SCP-7 is now the highest priority.
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## Cap total outbound mail
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